User:Driger-God/Sandbox

Introduction
Most people who read this Thread, I ask you to read carefully, and open mind, because these are drastic changes that need to be debated.

The topics I’ll be argue on mainly include:


 * Lucifer Morningstar Stuff
 * The Basanos
 * The Endless

Lucifer Morningstar Stuff
First, the justifications of the character to be 1-A, which do not make the slightest sense.

Time and Space are extensions of the mind and will, which he embodies as he's divine will that shapes creation.
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Is more powerful than Dream of the Endless
On this in question, I suggest you read the paragraph of the Endless brothers about why they are not 1-A ,just below this thread, so this scale is not valid.

====Capable of moving in, and comprehending the nature of the boundless void which is beyond all definitions of space and time.==== That by far in DC Comics does not prove it, the void out of creation does not have these features, where any being that moves off the multiverse and understand the void, will become 1-A. After all here in Superman & Batman 2003, superman and Izaya manages to move freely in the Source who is the same void OUTSIDE the multiverse of Lucifer Comics.

====Escaped his function and went outside of the Presence's plan====

First, that doesn't make anyone 1-A for reasons I'm going to give you right away, second, that's out-of-context.

Any being can come out of the Multiverse, the only requirement is only has immortality in Eternal Life, for example Silkman himself can come out of the presence plan (multiverse) because he with his immortality (type 1), waited until the plan is weak enough for him escape the plan of presence:

Silkman quote


 * 1. You are wrong, stranger. Look, another creation dawns. So i will enter it, and live again. And i will repeat this endlessly live forever process.

And about his "function", do not confuse get out of the presence plan with "escaping his function".

In lucifer, his fuction is to rule hell, so much so that in Lucifer vol 2, Lucifer reveals a conversation he had with God during the arch of the nagflar, about Yahweh being outraged that Lucifer had come out of Hell duties.


 * 2. Before i boarded the naglfar, our father spoke to me. He reminded me he had foreseen my rebellion. nudge it along. My fall was part of his plan. But my abandonment of my duties in hell... that was just unacceptable.

Also, that's what is saying literally on lucifer's front pages vol. 1


 * 3. He is no longer the lord of hell. He is no longer the agent of heaven. Even his name lucifer, the lightbringer, describes a function from which he has resigned.

===='''Destroyed Logos with a touch. Logos is the first word which sung all of existence into being'''====

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